Showing posts with label china. Show all posts
Showing posts with label china. Show all posts

Monday, June 21, 2010

Another short term money market indicator

I recently posted about the TED spread and how it had been marching higher (Murphy's law struck of course and it promptly reversed course right after I mentioned it.)

Zerohedge recently posted about a similiar money market stress indicator in the Chinese banking sector that bears watching.  If you want to look at the 1 month Chinese interbank lending rate in there future, here's the direct Bloomberg link

Wednesday, June 9, 2010

Some video of Marc Faber

Here's two somewhat lengthy videos of Marc Faber.  I suggest you watch both and see what one man thinks about the past and future.  While I think it likely his prediction central banks will keep printing it is not assured. 

The second video is a debate between him and Arthur Kroeber of Gavekal Dragonomics regarding the 'bubble' in China.  One item to note is how many people in the room think China will overheat. 




Reuters link for debate

ht: Wildebeests
ht: Business Insider

Tuesday, June 8, 2010

China home sales decline

If the results from Vanke (A Chinese property developer) are indicative of the entire nation, home sales are declining rapidly.   The property developers can hold on for a while but eventually their pipeline of developments are going to cause some 'indigestion' and they will be forced to cut prices, reduce the pace of new home construction, or a mixture of both.  This bears watching in the future.

From China Daily:
China Vanke Co, the country's largest property developer by market value, announced on Sunday that its sales revenue in May decreased 20.2 percent from a year earlier amid the government's tightening moves.

Thursday, June 3, 2010

Another China data dump

Been a bit busy this last month with various stuff so the posts have been a bit light.

Here's a dump of China information from the last month. Something for you to chew on while I ready the next wave of postings.

I posted some video a while ago about the empty city of Ordos China. Someone recently went there and took some pictures.  Time magazine no less. Go over to Randomroger and get all the details.

Intelligent speculator has some more video on Chanos and how and where to invest in China, both up and down.  Please notice the name of the web site. Be careful investing in China whether bullish or bearish.

In a previous post I mentioned the idea of a property tax had been floated by the local officials in Shanghai.  The Chinese Feds came in and squashed the idea, stating it was a federal matter. Looks like the back and forth will continue.  From Caixin online on 05/18/2010:
(Beijing) - China's tax agency said that the authority to levy property taxes lies in the central government rather than local governments.

Niu Xinwen, the spokesperson for the State Administration of Taxation, said that local governments have no right to interpret property tax policy, either.
The Shanghai government was quoted by Xinhua as saying that it was determined to curb housing prices with "harsh measures." However, the scope of taxable residential properties has yet to be determined.
Individually-owned, non-business real estate is taxed in Provisional Regulations on Property Taxes issued in 1986. In order to curb surging housing prices, local governments are considering a residential property tax in order to tamp down demand.

Then again 4 days earlier a pilot project for property taxes was announced.  From Caixin online (05/14/2010)
(Beijing) - Living a life of ease in an upscale Chongqing villa soon may cost a lot more.In April, the Chongqing municipal government announced a plan to tax high-end apartment owners as part of a nationwide push to curb surging housing prices. Under the municipality's pilot proposal, the owner of a villa worth around 3 million yuan would pay about 10,000 yuan in property taxes every year. Chongqing Mayor Huang Qifan unveiled the plan on a government website just three days after the central government's cabinet, the State Council, announced April 17 new measures designed to cool real estate sales.
The preferred method of stimulus in China appears to be ordering the banks to LEND.  The banks then ask 'how much'  This may not work again if the Chinese deem another boost is needed.  The banks have run out of excess capital.  Don't be suprised if you see some serious secondary offerings from Chinese banks soon. From Caixin online -- 04/29/10
(Beijing) - First quarter reports by five joint-stock banks, the second rung of China's bank industry ladder after the five biggest state-owned banks, have revealed that behind the rapid growth in net profits, capital adequacy ratios have fallen. Some banks have dipped below the regulatory capital requirement.

Just a few days ago Shanghai announced stricter measures to cut down on home 'speculation'  From Chinadaily 05/29/2010
"Shanghai will take more strict measures in line with the central government policy," Chen said, adding that more efforts will be made in building economically affordable houses and cracking down on speculative house purchasing.
The Economist jumps into the fray with their own opinion of the Chinese property market.  They are of the opinion China will survive the upcoming property bust.  From The Economist 05/27/2010
If mortgages did turn sour, how badly would China’s banks suffer? China Merchants Bank’s mortgage book grew by 70% in 2009. But mortgages still amounted to only 23% of its total loans. In China’s other big banks, the share is less than 20%. Loans to property developers account for another 8% or so, according to Mr Rothman.

Local governments may be more exposed. They suffer from a chronic shortfall of tax revenues, which they partly fill by expropriating land from farmers and selling it to developers at a hefty markup. Their dependence on property for income is often overstated, however. They are counting on land sales and property taxes for less than 17% of their revenues this year, according to Vincent Chan of Credit Suisse, once fiscal transfers from the central government are taken into account.
You know it's serious when officials sitting on the equivalent of the Federal Reserve board acknowledges the problem.  From Naked Capitalism 06/01/10
“The housing market problem in China is actually much, much more fundamental, much bigger than the housing market problem in the US and UK before your financial crisis,” he said in an interview. “It is more than [just] a bubble problem.”…

Mr Li said the high cost of housing could hamper future growth by slowing urbanisation. Rising prices were also a potential political flashpoint, especially among younger people who felt locked out of the property market.
“When prices go up, many people, especially young people, become very anxious,” he said. “It is a social problem.”

Wednesday, May 12, 2010

Shanghai consides levying annual property tax on 2nd homes -- This is important!

This is big folks. 
Up until now there has not been any sort of annual property tax on housing so there was no annual cost (beyond a loan) to owning a home.  IF this proposal becomes law I predict a massive change in the perception of housing in China as well as a large number of 2nd (and 3rd, 4th, 5th?) homes behind dumped on the market.

May 12 - China Daily
Shanghai will reveal the details of its tightening real estate policies as early as the end of this month, including its long-debated property-ownership tax on multiple homes, Shanghai Securities News reported today.

The property ownership tax is a tax on property based on its ownership and is usually charged yearly based on the estimated value or rental income of the property. In China, the tax currently targets only commercial properties.
In the draft plan, Shanghai will say that multiple residential properties owned by one household will be regarded as commercial properties, and thus subject to property ownership tax, the paper reported.

[edit: It looks like this will not happen, look at a more recent post of mine for the details.  ]

Another update on China housing -- price and transaction volume falling

The Chinese government continues clamping down on housing rules and regulations.  If the final new article in this post is accurate the results are quite impressive.

May 6 - China Daily
Chinese developer Evergrande Real Estate Group on Thursday started to offer a 15 percent discount on prices of its 40 property projects across the country to promote sales amid government tightening measures to cool down the red-hot sector, Shanghai Securities News reported.
May 5 - China Daily
Average daily transactions of completed apartments in Beijing dropped to two units during the three-day holiday, down 96 percent year-on-year, and that of homes yet to be constructed fell 35 percent to 205 units, according to Beijing Real Estate Transaction website. Compared with April, the transaction volume decreased more than 80 percent.
May 7 - Imarketnews
BEIJING (MNI) - China's housing market is reeling from a government effort designed to clamp down on rampant speculation and surging house prices, with potential buyers running to the sidelines as the level of uncertainty rises.
The sales center for C-King Towers should have been teeming with life last Sunday, with potential buyers cramming the room to snap up units in the mid-to-high end residential development on the north side of Beijing's Third Ring Road. That would certainly have been the case before the middle of last month.
But on Sunday it was a virtual ghost town; two receptionists chatted above the hum of the rap music being pumped into the room to entice non-existent buyers. Rows of tables draped in brown velvet, which should have been the setting for dealmaking, stood unoccupied.

And finally, after volume slows to a stop prices start falling:
May 11 - China Daily
According to Yahao Real Estate, a Beijing-based property brokerage firm, the city's residential housing cost averaged 16,898 yuan per square meter from May 3 to 9, fell 9.60 percent from a week earlier and declined 31.43 percent from the week ( April 4 to 11) before the policy has been taken, the newspaper said.
While this is only 'anecdotal' evidence on a certain level it certainly is powerful reading if accurate.  As my previous posts have alluded to the Chinese government wants to clamp down on housing speculation.  Considering their capabilities it is going to happen.  Whether in an elegant or destructive manner is yet to be determined. 

I'm starting to watch rebar and wire rod prices in China.  I'll give you an update once I have enough data.

Thursday, May 6, 2010

Well that was exciting. What's next?

I'm certain you already know by now but the markets took a serious hammering today.  While some are claiming a trade error took us down nearly 1000 points on the Dow before recovering the proximal causes of this recent selloff are still with us:

Greece is on a slow downward spiral towards default or a very severe recession / depression.  After the most recent bailout announcement the markets calmed down for one day before continuing to de-risk.  The contagion has spread and now Spain, Portugal and Italy are possibly next.  Who and when is next I don't know.

China continues tightening and is determined to stamp out rising property prices.  I have some more information that I intended to post on this but I've been a bit busy.  Fortunately I was finishing up de-risking a few portfolios yesterday.

The Fed's purchase of mortgage backed securities ended March 31 so from now on the money supply will start to contract.  The Fed is effectively tightening right now.

The home buyer tax credit deadline ended a few days ago so the housing bounce is over with.

Bank lending continues to contract for both households and small companies.

I've gone over these items before but the Greek situation started the ball rolling downhill.  Until several of the above items are resolved what happened today was not a 'one time event'.

Friday, April 30, 2010

Some more China property news -- Speculation at a turning point?

I'm not talking about Greece for now as the situation is so fluid and even if they get IMF/Euroland funding it is going to still be a nasty long haul for the Greeks . . . . On to China.

A good article regarding property speculation occurring in the 'boonies' of China, not only the main cities. From Chovanec:
I’ve heard experts insist that it’s purely a top-tier phenomenon, but the evidence of my eyes and ears tells me that similar market dynamics have taking hold all across China . . .
Note several familiar trends I’ve been mentioning all along: people buying multiple apartments they have no intention of occupying; up-front cash purchases; funds channeled into real estate due to lack of investment alternatives; a property market that far outstrips the local economy in size and energy; reliance on construction as a job-generator; and buyer psychology approaching obsession.
The recent clampdown on property speculation appears to have already tamped down prices and reduced the enthusiasm of some buyers.  From Chinadaily:
As new policies released by the Chinese government are effectively cooling down the real estate market, a rush to return purchased properties are emerging in many major cities, mainly led by speculators, the National Business Daily reported on Thursday.
Finally something that is a bit more opaque but possibly as powerful.  The state's rhetoric against property hoarding and speculation by officials (corruption) appears to be heating up.  This is much harder to determine as I'm not an expert China watcher. As such I don't know how important this is but reading the tea leaves it may be part of a larger strategy. From BusinessInsider:

In the commentary, entitled “To Solve The Populace’s Housing Difficulties We Must Root Out Self-Enrichment By The Powerful”, the author attacks corruption as the root cause of the failure to provide enough affordable, subsidized housing. And without a massive increase in the supply of affordable, subsidized housing, the government will not succeed in cooling down housing-related tensions that now threaten social stability. . .
The central government has staked a huge amount of credibility on cooling the real estate market and resolving housing difficulties for the masses. Skeptics will rightly say that Beijing has tried this before, several times, and never successfully reined in the web of interests and corruption that distort China’s real estate market. This time I think will be different, as the central government likely believes that housing related issues are the biggest threat to social stability in China.
 
If China decides to institute an annual property tax, like we have in America, the rush to the exits will be massive.  Until then it will be hard to precisely determine if / when the top is in.

Thursday, April 29, 2010

Chinese property prices already falling?

I've previously mentioned the new restrictions on property purchases in China. It appears they are already deflating prices.

From China Daily

The average price of second-hand houses in Beijing's Tongzhou district has dropped from 21,500 to 18,500 yuan per square meter, a decrease of 13.4 percent since the government issued stricter rules to curb speculation, the Beijing Times reported Wednesday.

Prices of some projects even plunged 25 percent, the report said.
Beijing Centaline Property predicted that housing prices in Tongzhou district will continue the downward trend and fall below 16,500 yuan per square meter by May.
It's only one bit of data but interesting nonetheless . . .

Monday, April 26, 2010

China getting smacked tonight

At the end of Shanghai's morning session the main index is down 2.1+%

Shanghai 300

It appears the recent rules designed to curb property price speculation have bitten hard, from ChinaDaily:

According to real estate research institute China Index Academy, among the 35 cities it monitors, 21 experienced a fall in transactions last week, with Hangzhou suffering the biggest drop of 72.6 percent. Property sales in Beijing, Shanghai and Shenzhen fell 45.5 percent, 32.9 percent and 63.9 percent respectively over the previous week.
It will be interesting to note if this is just a pause that refreshes or if the Chinese consumer realizes the gov't will keep twisting the screws tighter until they get home prices to calm down. 

The Shanghai property index can be a useful indicator to watch.  If you notice it lead (or coincided with) all the previous major up and down trends from the last 3 years.

[edit: now down 3+% and breached low of Feb 3, 2010.  This is not a good technical sign ]

Friday, April 23, 2010

More base metal linkage

Some more base metal background information:

New Aluminum capacity coming online in the gulf, which makes sense. Considering electricity costs are a large part of the cost structure, getting close to low price energy makes sense.  Pity the high cost AL producer.
http://www.thenational.ae/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20100412/BUSINESS/704129895/1005

Substitution effect for copper, aluminum and plastic.  High prices in copper create demand destruction as other products are used.
http://www.indiainfoline.com/Discuss/Blogs/Copper-mania-redux/544390

Zambia copper production update:
http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSLDE62F11Y20100316

General copper overview as compared to CRB, industrial production, and the BDI
http://www.datadiary.com.au/2010/03/26/commodity-markets-going-up-or-down/

China importing copper
http://agmetalminer.com/2010/04/09/copper-prices-strong-despite-china-subdued-buying/

Have a good weekend.

Tuesday, April 20, 2010

China tightening rules on home purchases

Recently China has tightened rules regarding home sales:

Banks can refuse loans on 3rd homes.  (wow, THIRD HOMES)
Down payments on second homes have been increased from 40 to 50 percent.
Mortgage rates have been increased.
Developers can no longer take deposits on unfinished homes without proper approval and other rules designed to mitigate keeping housing supply off the market.

China Daily article  2010 April 19

Bloomberg article 2010 April 20


Let's see if this works  . . .

Friday, April 16, 2010

Some Friday Links -- Fun for all. A physics lesson tossed in as well.

Been busy with tax day but here's some links and comments . . .

Greece 10 year bond yields keep rising and are very close to piercing pre bailout yields. 
Some German profs are preparing a lawsuit.  -- Telegraph.co.uk
Has Greece hit the Chandrasekhar limit and just doesn't know it yet?  Once you go passed the limit there is no turning back.

Some back and forth on strategic defaults fueling consumer spending:
Pro Tinfoil: Creditwritedowns
Anti Tinfoil: The Big Picture

Creditwritedowns pulls together a lot of subjects and puts a nice bow on top describing a theory I agree with:  We are in a balance sheet recession that will not produce a strong rebound and will take a long time to reconcile.  I posted the Koo and Chanos videos recently but Mr. Harrison does more work tying it all together. 

Total copper inventories have now risen for 2 weeks straight and are close to penetrating their recent peak level; LME inventories have dramatically slowed their decline and Shanghai inventories hit new highs today.  Copper's getting smacked today.  I'll write more about this soon(tm).

Wednesday, April 14, 2010

China lending continues to slow

China lending continues to slow down after the dramatic increase beginning December 2008.  Chinese banks take lending orders from the Government so this is not a suprise to the powers that be in the Middle Kingdom. 

Considering the peak lending was November of last year it may take several more months for the slowdown to work its way through and finally start to be felt 'on the ground'

Will the lending slowdown be enough to tamp down on rising property prices?  Or will they raise interest or reserve rates?  Inflation and growth in China are on the hot side right now so they may be forced to tamp on the brakes a little harder than just slowing lending.

As I have mentioned previously the peaks and valleys of bank lending have coincided rather closely to the peaks and valleys of the Shanghai stock exchange (the local exchange, not etf's like FXI)  This time around Shanghai peaked (so far at least)  in early August, preceeding peak lending by several months.   I'm wondering if this connection will hold again . . .


Additional reading:
China daily - Lending slowdown
China daily - Chinese banks will need more capital.  Considering all the money they lent out more capital will be needed to provide future leverage

Tuesday, April 13, 2010

Jim Chanos on China and Rogoff on Excessive debt

Here's 2 interviews for your digestion.  Jim Chanos last night on Charlie Rose regarding China and Mr. Rogoff on how excessive debt growth eventually gets you into trouble.  I reccommend (again) you read the book "This time is different" by Rogoff & Reinhart

Charlie Rose Interviews Jim Chanos

Charlie Rose Interviews Kenneth Rogoff

Tuesday, April 6, 2010

Chinese lending update --- Is the peak in?

It's been a while since I last updated you on Chinese loan growth.  Some of that was due to the problems of getting the data out of China. I was finally able to extract the data and it appears the peak in lending is finally in.  March data comes out soon but considering the difficulties of updating this data I thought I'd get you up to date now.

Even with the 'record' lending in the first two months of 2010 both the trailing twelve month total of lending and year over year percent change of total loans outstanding have peaked.

As with every massive increase in lending it ends up on all sorts of places and turns out to be much more prevalent than commonly thought.  Elite Chinese Politics blog (Mr. Victor Shih) has some serious allegations of hidden debt in the local government investment entities that are the analog of the Special Investment Vehicles (SIV's) of our banking bust.  Here's some more reading on the matter at businessinder.com and here.  Of course this is difficult to 'prove' as the Chinese accounting books are not the most transparent but Mr. Shih's work should not be discounted out of hand.  I suggest you go to his blog and read the comments and rebuttals.  It's good stuff. . .

Friday, April 2, 2010

Running into the Great Firewall of China

I access data from public Chinese webservers for some of the data I present on this blog.  During the start of the Google/China controversy I began to notice some odd 'errors' as I attempted to access Chinese web servers.  Sometimes I get a simple 'hello!' from the server and nothing else, other times I get a 404 error and other times there is no problem.  

I wonder if the 'Great Firewall of China' as described by the WSJ is working on keeping away the outsiders as well? 
China generally doesn't tell its people when it is interfering with their Web access, unlike some other countries, such as Saudi Arabia, that give explanatory warning messages when users are denied access to forbidden sites.

Instead, China's filtering can look to users like a technical glitch—an error message in a user's browser that makes it seem like his connection to the Internet malfunctioned. Authorities don't discuss the methods or tools they use.

Anyone else running into the same issues? 
Here's one test I just ran:
http://www.pbc.gov.cn/  -- Returns 'hello'
 
http://www.pbc.gov.cn/english/ -- Gives me a 404 error (page not found)
 
Both of those sites have worked on and off for a week or so. If you do a Google search for "people's bank of china" these are the first links you get and the Chinese central bank is not an obscure web site I'm hitting.  There's others web sites that return the same errors... puzzling . . . .

[edit 04/05/10 11:20am pst: I was able to access the above web sites on Saturday and pull the data I was looking for.  Today, Monday, I was unable to do so and received the same error messages.  I'm going to get a packet sniffer and see if the error message / 'hello' comes from the same location as the normal data and see if the Great Fire Wall is somehow blocking me ]

Friday, February 26, 2010

Hugh Hendry on China's chronic overcapacity and what it means.

Hugh Hendry once again nails it (in my opinion) as to what China's conversion into the workshop of the world really means.

This appetite for cheap Chinese exports, which had at one point seemed insatiable, means that we in the West have come to owe our largest Asian trading partner quite a hefty sum of money. China has become the world's biggest creditor, after amassing nearly $2.3 trillion of foreign exchange claims on us. However, the spectre of a creditor nation running persistent trade surpluses has ominous historical portents. It has happened only twice before, with the US economy in the Twenties and with the Japanese economy in the Eighties.
Read the entire article, it is not long.

Monday, February 8, 2010

Video from Russian Forum -- Various hedge fund managers discuss the world

A video from the recent Russian Forum.  It's an hour+ but I suggest you watch it all.

http://2010.therussiaforum.com/news/session-video3/

Numerous topics are covered including, coal, energy, Russia, China, US Treasuries, Emerging versus Developed economies.  Includes Hugh Hendry, one of my favorite money managers.

ht Zerohedge